Interview with Polly Upfal: dealing with Perthes Disease

Hi Polly, thanks for coming onto my blog today. Polly is my neighbor. She lives two doors up with her Mum & Dad, Julie & Danny Upfal, and her three gorgeous older sisters, Daisy, Isobel and Harriet. Polly is eight years old and she loves to run and play basketball. She also has a rare hip condition called Perthes Disease. She’s funny and feisty and brave. And this is Polly’s story…


1.    Polly, can you tell me a little bit about Perthes Disease?

My hipbone is disintegrating and it’s come out of the socket and I need to stretch it back into the right position.

2.    Now, you’ve had this before, when you were three years old, can you remember much about this?

No, not really.

I remember it well. You had hip surgery and were in a plaster cast for three months and then a brace for another 6 months. You used to visit me and take it off and then you’d get into trouble when you went home. Do you remember that?

I think I do actually.

3.    Okay, when did you first feel that something was wrong with your ‘good’ hip?

Well, it was on a Tuesday. I was at school and we were playing tiggy. I fell over and banged my knee. My knee is attached to my hip and later that night my hip felt sore.

It got worse. It became sorer and sorer in the next few days. It got very sore. Mum wanted to take me to the Doctor but I just wanted to be able to play in my basketball Grand Final.

The basketball Grand Final came and when I got onto the court I just couldn’t run. It was really painful and my legs wouldn’t work. I found it really hard to breath. I kept trying but nothing would stop the pain.

Oh dear, did you win the Grand Final?

No, we lost 16 to 8. It was really bad as I’m the best player.

4.    How did you feel when you found out you had Perthes again in the other hip?

Annoyed. Very annoyed!

I kept crying because my hip was hurting. I had to have x-rays. The nurse said it was serious so I got in to see the surgeon straight away.

5.    What’s your surgeon’s name, what’s he like?

His name is Mark and he’s very serious.

6.    Now, you’ve chosen a different type of treatment for Perthes this time, haven’t you?

Yep. Mum & Dad don’t want me to have the surgery. Mum’s talked to people who’ve tried other things and they’ve worked for other kids.

7.    What are the other treatments?


8. And what do they do?

They make the bone go hard and grow again.

How do you take it?

Well, this is the bad part. It’s a needle.

Right…tell me more…

I go into the Children’s Hospital and there’s a lady there called Margaret and Margaret owns the bisphosphonate. You lie down on a chair and they stick a needle thing in your arm (it hurts) and the stuff goes inside your body.

Does a nurse do this?

Yes, the nurse is called Julie.

Same as your Mum.


8.    And how did you react to the bisphosphonates?

Not too well. I was very sick.

I couldn’t sleep, I couldn’t eat. I was hot and then I was cold. I felt shivery. I thought my head was going to blow up I felt so hot. It was awful.

But this gets less and less with each treatment, doesn’t it?

Yep, that’s what Mum says.

How often do you have it?

I’m not sure.

(Once every four months)

And how do you feel now?

Mostly I don’t have any pain. It’s great.

Well, that’s good, isn’t it?

Yep, but I still can’t run.

9.    No, but that’s the other part of the treatment isn’t it. You have to stay off your legs. Tell me what else do you have to do?

I can’t run, I can’t play, I can’t play basketball. When you have Perthes you can’t play any sport.

But you will Polly, this isn’t forever. Remember your new friend Charlie who had Perthes? He’s fifteen now and playing footy and lots of other sports.

Yeah, I know it just seems a long time. I feel like I’m going to be like this forever.

I’m sure it does. But it won’t be forever, you know that, don’t you?


10. Tell me about your ‘slings & springs’?

When I get home from school I lie on my bed and put my feet into slings that are held up by springs. They hold my legs apart and stretch them to get movement back into my legs. We measure from toe to toe or ankle to ankle. I started at 39cm and now I’m up to 50cm!


That’s fantastic, Polly. You sleep in ‘slings & springs’ too, don’t you?

Not anymore. I keep twisting around during the night and it isn’t the right angle for my hips.

11. How many hours a day are you in the ‘slings & springs’

I dunno, a lot. Mum says it needs to be at least 4 hours.

12. What else do you do as part of your treatment for Perthes?

Well, I use a wheelchair at school and at home I use crutches all the time. Never get the under arm crutches they rub your under arms raw. Get the forearm ones, they’re much better.


You had to move classrooms, is that right?

Yeah, my classroom was upstairs so I had to move downstairs.

How did that go?

I already knew the teacher; I’ve had her before. She’s really nice. I’ve made lots of new friends: Lara, Willow, Sophie T. and Abbey. But French is upstairs. Sometimes I fall over stuff kids have left on the ground.


Oh dear, that’s no good.

13. What else do you do as part of your treatment?

I swim four days a week.

I really hate cold pools.

Last week, I went to Harold Holt and little kid did a poop in the pool and we had to get out. That was really funny. But I really hate cold pools.


After swimming I get to eat Slightly Salted Popcorn. I also swim at Loretto and sometimes we have Frozen Yogurt. I have salted butterscotch on top.


13. So, how have you found things at school?

School’s okay. It’s just really annoying that kids ask me all the time “Why are you in a wheelchair?” And I say, I’ve got Perthes Disease and they’re like, “What’s that?” and I’m tired of telling people what it is. I feel like yelling STOP asking me!

I hate it when I want to walk and I can’t. When I see everyone running around, I really want to but I can’t.

It makes me so angry. When I get really angry I hold my breath. When I get really, really angry, I scratch my face.


Of course, you’re angry, you have every right to be angry Polly but please don’t scratch your face. Let’s find another way to let off steam okay?

Okay. What are we going to do?

We’ll talk later about this okay?


Polly and me clowning around (she's just too cute)
Polly and me clowning around (she’s just too cute)
(She isn't)
(she isn’t)


14.  Is there anything at all that’s good about Perthes?

When you’re in a wheelchair, people are really, really nice to you. You get lots of attention.

And at home I get to go on the computer all the time.

That sounds pretty good.

 It is. My family love me. They’re really good to me. And I love them too.

Daisy, Isobel, Polly, Julie & Danny Upfal, Harriet (holding Marlo), and Midas the boxer (he just wouldn't smile for the camera)

And if anyone else gets this Perthes Disease, you have to trust your parents. Believe in your parents. They’re only trying to help you get better.

Good advice, Polly.

15. I’ve heard you’re writing a book? Is this true?

 Yes, silly, you’re helping me!

That’s right, of course I am! What are you going to call it?

 ‘STOP ASKING ME!’ by Polly Upfal


A very cool title, Polly, I can’t wait to help you write it.

Sweet Polly, thank you for coming onto my blog today. Did you know you inspire me? And I bet you inspire lots of other people too.

I wish you all the very best in your recovery from Perthes Disease. You’re doing an awesome job. You hang in there. Don’t ever forget how special and unique you are, there is no one else in the world like you.

Note to reader: I have taken very few liberties in editing Polly’s answers. I think she’s very articulate and clever, don’t you?

Stay tuned for my next blog post about helping unwell children cope with their pain, including a deep breathing meditation for children.

Some of the artwork above is for Polly’s book “Stop Asking Me!’. It’s watercolour and collage.


  • Leanne Regan

    What a great interview. Such a brave , spirited and beautiful child. She manages to tell us how horrible Perthes disease is without being gloomy about it. A very worthwhile use of your writing talent Neridah.
    September 02, 2013 at 09:36 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hi Leanne, yes, Polly is an amazing little girl :-)
      September 02, 2013 at 09:23 am Reply
  • Ian McMullin

    Great interview Neridah. You really know how to bring the best out in people. Polly is truly amazing.
    September 02, 2013 at 09:22 am Reply
  • lynette Bade

    Polly is a very brave little girl.I hope her recovery goes well .
    September 02, 2013 at 09:39 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hello Lynette. We all hope Polly's recovery goes well. She's doing everything right so she's giving herself every chance.
      September 02, 2013 at 09:18 pm Reply
  • isobel

    dear neridah i love the blog about polly and have loved the silly photos you have taken but we think that you are amazing .
    September 02, 2013 at 09:47 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hello lovely Isobel, I'm so glad you like my interview with Polly. You're a wonderful big sister to her. See u. Neridah x
      September 02, 2013 at 09:16 pm Reply
  • David Lawrence

    Put me down for 10 copies of Polly's book - great interview! Xx
    September 03, 2013 at 09:32 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hey Starch, ten it is! It's a sweet, brave little story :-)
      September 03, 2013 at 09:58 am Reply
    • Chrissy

      Hi Neridah and Polly I loved reading your blog what a rave girl you are Polly! My grandson has just been diagnosed with Perthes Disease we have our first specialist visit at Monash Childrens tomorrow. We have so many questions to ask. I would love to buy a copy of your book Polly where can i get one? Kind regards chrissy
      November 26, 2014 at 11:08 am Reply
      • A little Birdy told me...

        Hi Chrissy, I have contacted Polly's mum to ask her if it's okay if I pass her email details onto you. I'm sure she'd be happy to tell you all about their experiences. I apoligsie for the delay in getting back to you. You can purchase Polly's book online through Blurb Books at Good luck with everything. Neridah
        December 08, 2014 at 12:23 am Reply
  • Kaylene Savas

    What an amazing little girl. Children have such an incredible outlook on life when situations are thrown at them. So strong and positive and very matter of fact. I'm looking forward to Polly's book. The illustrations are fabulous so far. What an inspiration to us all!!!!
    September 03, 2013 at 09:25 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hi Kaylene, thanks so much for blogging girlfriend. You're right, Polly is an inspiring little person :-)
      September 04, 2013 at 09:48 am Reply
  • Tracey B

    A great interview Neridah. Polly's story is one of true resilience and strength...and it seems like she still has a wonderful sense of humour. Great illustrations by the way. LOVE the collage. Clever you, well done.
    September 03, 2013 at 09:13 pm Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hi Tracey, lovely to hear from you. Yes, Polly has a wonderful sense of humour. I'm glad you like the illo's :-) Hope all is well down your way x
      September 04, 2013 at 09:47 am Reply
  • Tracey Fanning

    Well done Neridah and Polly. A great interview and I can't wait to see Polly's book. Loved the funny faces :)))
    September 03, 2013 at 09:26 pm Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hey Trace, yes Polly is a real character. Her book will be out in a couple of weeks. I'll nab a copy for you :-) Hope all is well in Sydney x
      September 04, 2013 at 09:49 am Reply
  • Kate

    What a firecracker! Go Polly, go! Great, spirited interview, Neridah! Love the final illustration with the angry tonsils .
    September 17, 2013 at 09:55 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Yes, Polly has a great sense of humour :-)
      September 17, 2013 at 09:46 am Reply
  • Heather

    Wow Neridah - what a great project! Congratulations and all the best to Polly in her recovery :)
    October 30, 2013 at 10:45 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hi Heather, lovely to hear from you. It's certainly been fun working with Polly. She's a brave one :-)
      October 30, 2013 at 10:57 am Reply
  • Erica

    Thank you for a wonderful interview from a beautiful little girls perspective. My Son who is 7 has just been diagnosed, we are devastated, overwhelmed & a little lost. I was just wondering if you could advise which Doctor Polly is under as we would like a second opinion and some of our medical questions answered more appropriately that previously done. I look forward to the next interview with polly running around again like normal and perthes was only a fleeting moment in her life like I hope it is for my beautiful boy.
    February 22, 2014 at 02:14 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hi Erica, good luck with everything. The Upfal's are a beautiful family :-)
      February 25, 2014 at 02:14 am Reply
  • Julie

    Hi Erica Im Julie, Polly's mum. I would be more than happy to help with any questions being one question of one hundred. Its nice to have someone knowing whats going on. Please feel free to contact me on my email [email protected] we are seeing our surgeon tomorrow and I will ask his recommendation for a orthopeadic surgeon in Sydney. We are based in Melbourne.
    February 24, 2014 at 02:51 am Reply
  • Melinda Tognini

    Thanks so much for interviewing Polly. Please tell her that I love swimming but also dislike cold pools. And I look forward to reading her book when it's finished. Will you keep us updated about that?
    October 11, 2015 at 10:16 am Reply
    • A little Birdy told me...

      Hi Melinda, that's my pleasure. Thanks for coming onto my blog. Polly's book is now available at BLURB Australia on-line bookstore. I can't hyperlink it! but that's where it is. She's actually writing another one. I'll keep you posted. Neridah
      October 11, 2015 at 10:21 am Reply

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